Hebrews 12: to get drunk or not?

Hebrews 12: 1-13: This passage speaks of discipline, it tells us it is painful, and that God, our heavenly father will correct us just as an earthly father would. As I read this passage, my first thought is God can do no evil. James 1: 13: Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man.  Discipline is not pleasant, for either party.  Think about it was it ever fun to discipline your children?  If you think it is or was, then you need some help. Please go speak with your pastor.  When God corrects us it is not through serious illness, it is not through the removal of a family member. It is not the loss of our job, or our home.  The evil one is responsible for these things. Well actually to be technical, it goes back to Adam and Eve the original sin when Satan gained a foothold in the world. However, our own sin allows Satan into our world. Discipline is usually the Holy Spirit convicting us of our unholy, or ungodliness.  It is the old behaviors before Salvation the ones we have not let go that keeps us separate from God. When we behave poorly, committing sins that are clearly against God, such as getting drunk, God does not say we cannot have a drink, he just says don’t make a habit of getting drunk.  If you think about it, it is good advice because trouble happens when we get drunk or do something, which impairs our judgment. The Holy Spirit swoops in and is that voice in our ear- the one elementary teachers use with students- “that was a poor choice, how could you have handled this situation differently.  If you had done that instead of what you did, would your friend be mad at you right now?”  That is the type of discipline we are speaking of in this passage. Here are some bible passages concerning drinking: Galatians 5:21, Psalms 104:14-15, Proverbs 20:1, and Matthew 11: 19.  They all clearly state drink is okay however excess is bad and leads to no good.

1Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, let us strip off every weight that slows us down, especially the sin that so easily trips us up. And let us run with endurance the race God has set before us. We do this by keeping our eyes on Jesus, the champion who initiates and perfects our faith, Because of the joy awaiting him, he endured the cross, disregarding its shame. Now he is seated in the place of honor beside God’s throne. Think of all the hostility he endured from sinful people; then you won’t become weary and give up. After all, you have not yet given your lives in your struggle against sin. And have you forgotten the encouraging words God spoke to you as his children?  He said, “My child, don’t make light of the Lord’s discipline, and don’t give up when he corrects you. For the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child.” As you endure this divine discipline, remember that God is treating you as his own children. Who ever heard of a child who is never disciplined by its father? If God doesn’t discipline you as he does all of his children, it means that you are illegitimate and are not really his children at all. Since we respected our earthly fathers who disciplined us, shouldn’t we submit even more to the discipline of the Father of our spirits, and live forever? 10 For our earthly fathers disciplined us for a few years, doing the best they knew how. But God’s discipline is always good for us, so that we might share in his holiness. 11 No discipline is enjoyable while it is happening—it’s painful! But afterward there will be a peaceful harvest of right living for those who are trained in this way. 12 So take a new grip with your tired hands and strengthen your weak knees. 13 Mark out a straight path for your feet so that those who are weak and lame will not fall but become strong.




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